{"id":38934,"date":"2025-02-26T03:01:44","date_gmt":"2025-02-25T19:01:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/17aitech.com\/?p=38934"},"modified":"2025-02-26T03:01:44","modified_gmt":"2025-02-25T19:01:44","slug":"%e5%88%9a%e5%88%9a%ef%bc%8cdeepseek%e5%bc%80%e6%ba%90moe%e8%ae%ad%e7%bb%83%e3%80%81%e6%8e%a8%e7%90%86ep%e9%80%9a%e4%bf%a1%e5%ba%93deepep%ef%bc%8c%e7%9c%9f%e5%a4%aaopen%e4%ba%86%ef%bc%81","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/17aitech.com\/?p=38934","title":{"rendered":"\u521a\u521a\uff0cDeepSeek\u5f00\u6e90MoE\u8bad\u7ec3\u3001\u63a8\u7406EP\u901a\u4fe1\u5e93DeepEP\uff0c\u771f\u592aOpen\u4e86\uff01"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u6587\u7ae0\u6765\u6e90\u4e8e\u4e92\u8054\u7f51:<a href=\"https:\/\/www.jiqizhixin.com\/articles\/2025-02-25-5\" target=\"_blank\">\u521a\u521a\uff0cDeepSeek\u5f00\u6e90MoE\u8bad\u7ec3\u3001\u63a8\u7406EP\u901a\u4fe1\u5e93DeepEP\uff0c\u771f\u592aOpen\u4e86\uff01<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u4e0a\u5468\u4e94\uff0cDeepSeek 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src=\"https:\/\/17aitech.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/frc-d15586143af9a227ebc2f6da06761255.png\"><\/a><\/section>\n<section>\u9879\u76ee\u94fe\u63a5\uff1ahttps:\/\/github.com\/deepseek-ai\/DeepEP<\/section>\n<section><\/section>\n<section>\u81f3\u4e8e\u706b\u5230\u4e86\u4ec0\u4e48\u7a0b\u5ea6\uff1f<\/section>\n<section><\/section>\n<section>\u673a\u5668\u4e4b\u5fc3\u6587\u7ae0\u8fd8\u6ca1\u5199\u5b8c\uff0c<strong>DeepEP \u7684 Star \u91cf\u5df2\u8d85\u00a01000 \u4e86<\/strong>\uff1a<\/section>\n<section><a href=\"https:\/\/17aitech.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/frc-20f2cf0ea1f46115689face71b8611d4.png\" data-fancybox=\"images\" data-fancybox=\"gallery\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/17aitech.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/frc-20f2cf0ea1f46115689face71b8611d4.png\"><\/a><\/section>\n<section>\u8be5\u9879\u76ee\u5f00\u6e90\u540e\uff0c\u6709\u4eba\u8bc4\u4ef7\u8bf4\uff1aDeepSeek \u4e3a MoE 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